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		<title>Report: First Javascript SF Meetup</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I had the pleasure of attending the first Javascript SF meetup at the Hi5 offices a couple days ago. It was a rather large turn out with some great demos. The main themes of the night were Canvas and Javascript &#8230; <a href="http://waynepan.com/2008/04/20/report-first-javascript-sf-meetup/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had the pleasure of attending the first <a href="http://javascript.meetup.com/4/calendar/7519957/">Javascript SF meetup</a> at the Hi5 offices a couple days ago. It was a rather large turn out with some great demos. The main themes of the night were Canvas and Javascript frameworks to develop desktop apps. A few thoughts on the talks:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.sproutcore.com/"><img src="http://waynepan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/sproutcore.png" alt="" title="sproutcore" width="150" height="36" class="aright" /></a>First up was <a href="http://www.sproutcore.com/">SproutCore</a> presented by <a href="http://www.okito.net/">Charles Jolley</a> which is what I would imagine if Javascript and Ruby on Rails had a love child together. The basic premise is to allow you to develop desktop type apps with javascript and ruby. The best part of the app is the <a href="http://www.sproutcore.com/documentation/getting-started/">build system</a> which merges all your javascript and css, even spriting your images. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596517742?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=wapasbl-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0596517742"><img class='aright' border="0" src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51UHglbU2UL._SL160_.jpg"/></a>After SproutCore, <a href="http://www.crockford.com/">Douglas Crockford</a> came to pimp his new book <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0596517742?ie=UTF8&#038;tag=wapasbl-20&#038;linkCode=as2&#038;camp=1789&#038;creative=9325&#038;creativeASIN=0596517742">JavaScript: The Good Parts</a>. Ajaxian <a href="http://ajaxian.com/archives/javascript-the-good-parts">joked</a> that it would be a 2-pager at most <img src='http://waynepan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_lol.gif' alt=':lol:' class='wp-smiley' />  but Crockford said it would easily the densest book about javascript (weighing in 120 pages). A quote from the book:<br />
<blockquote>Most programming languages contain good and bad parts, but JavaScript has more than its share of the bad, having been developed and released in a hurry before it could be refined. This authoritative book scrapes away these bad features to reveal a subset of JavaScript that’s more reliable, readable, and maintainable than the language as a whole-a subset you can use to create truly extensible and efficient code.</p></blockquote>
<p> I&#8217;ll definitely be picking this one up. <img src="http://www.assoc-amazon.com/e/ir?t=wapasbl-20&#038;l=as2&#038;o=1&#038;a=0596517742" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" /></p>
<p><a href="http://www.solutoire.com/flotr"><img src="http://waynepan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/flotr.png"class='aright' alt="" title="flotr" width="150" height="81" /></a>Somebody (I don&#8217;t recall who) mentioned <a href="http://www.solutoire.com/flotr">flotr</a>, a javascript charting library. It&#8217;s been around for a while but this is the first I&#8217;ve looked at it. There are definite benefits in doing charting in canvas versus flash but my worry is IE6 and 7 support. Even though IE 6/7 are supported through ExCanvas, I still don&#8217;t feel comfortable with the landscape.</p>
<p><a href='http://280slides.com/'><img src="http://waynepan.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/280northlogo5.png" alt="" title="280northlogo5" width="150" height="115" class="aright" /></a>Easily the best presso of the night was from the <a href="http://280north.com">280 North</a> founders showing off not only their upcoming app <a href="http://280slides.com/signup.php">280 Slides</a> but the framework that it is built on. <a href="http://blog.rossboucher.com/">Ross Boucher</a> and crew asked the folks to keep the wraps on what was shown at the meetup so I won&#8217;t delve into it much more. All I can say is the app is far superior to any of the current online slideshow offerings out there right now. It basically looked and functioned (very speedily too!) like a normal desktop application. The framework which has been in development for over 2 years is unlike anything out right now. I&#8217;m not sold on it yet but they stated that their plan is to open source it so I&#8217;m looking forward to getting my hands on it when they do.</p>
<p>By far the funniest moment of the night was when <a href="http://yehudakatz.com/">Yehuda Katz</a> was demoing <a href="http://code.google.com/p/ruby-spidermonkey/">ruby-spidermonkey</a>. Right before he showed an example using &#8216;with&#8217;, he turns to Crockford and says &#8220;Sorry Doug&#8221;. <img src='http://waynepan.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  The entire room started laughing which meant everybody in attendance was a bonafide javascript geek. Awesome.</p>
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